100 sq ft Black Surface Mount Vinyl Ceiling Grid Kit

I've been using this for multiple rooms in my basement, roughly 1500sq ft. Here's a few tips: 1) Don't level the wall bracket separate from your floor joists. Push them all the way up to the floor joists, and shim if needed. Leveling them on the wall will cause your ceiling to look 'cupped' around the edges. 2) Install blocking behing anywhere where 2 top hangers need to meet. You won't be able to snap them in properly if you don't. 3) Install blocking behind the last top hanger, all the way across. Once you install the last tiles, you can no longer grab the top hanger to snap it together like previous rows. Installing blocking behind it insures you can push hard without moving the tiles. I wish I had known this when I started. 4) The formula they give is for centering tiles in a square room. Make sure to sketch on paper first and make sure you like the layout. Skinny rooms will fail their formula. A better formula is to take their formula and apply it to BOTH directions in your room, which guarantees you will be centered in both directions. 5) Buy cardboard construction shims to quickly bring joists in to level. Cheaper than thin stock and are fine for this application.

This is a great alternative to traditional drop celling. The instal is fast and easy and looks the same. A couple drawback the redgitity of the product making it difficult if you have large gaps to span. The biggest drawback though is the way the mounting strips a cut. The one foot on the ends really is a horrible design especially when the boarder is larger than one foot and working with 2x4 tiles. With the extra foot now you lose two plus feet off the 8ft stick. Unless you get creative with the ends and scrap. They should offer these in two cut styles one with the extra foot and one without the extra foot.

Easy to install, easy to get into later, looks great. I needed to install a drop ceiling in the basement laundry room and bathroom. I got historic tin ceiling tiles and installed the laundry room with a traditional metal system with a 2 to 3 inch clearance in the lowest places. In the bathroom I have a partial drywall ceiling and could not easily remove it all due to a 2x4 lower frame behind which I would also have to cut out to get a metal suspended ceiling in at a good height. The ceiling is already low so I did not want a metal system causing to be even lower. I opted for this system and it went in great. I had a shower dividing wall I had to go around but all the seams look great (no gaps or unevenness). I placed a ceiling fan in one tile and recessed lights in two other tiles with no issues. I still have to take one tile down to put in a heating vent grate, but I know that will be easy now...

Ok, the product is flimsy and under engineered. The specs to use this product are brutally tight, approximately 1/8". Next, the material that the grid is made out of has virtually no dimensional stability; it is like trying to straight line a cooked spaghetti noodle. Finally, the installation instructions and videos bear no relationship to reality. Now, I am making it work but the work is brutally slow to make everything work. Finally, do not try installing this alone as you will need a second set of hands. Finally, I do believe that when I finally get done with this "product" that I will have a nice looking ceiling. Finally, there are no spacers for lights, fans etc., so make your own.

I've used this product in the past and find it perfect to enable to keep the most headroom possible when putting in a drop ceiling.

Unable to return as the return shipping is much as the product cost. Stuck with these even though I can't use them

I recommend this product for patient installers. One must take their time, think through the installation, and measure exactly since your room is not going to be perfectly square. Lots of info here in case you're installing: 1) Definitely center the full size tiles. It makes it look professional. I did and it does look nicer. 2) the long tracks that installs against the joists (TOP HANGER) must be perfectly level (use shims) and it needs backing along its entire edge. When you push the final snap in that is the same length you need the TOP HANGER to not flex, otherwise the runner won't snap into place (that is step 5 Locking in The runner). So you must BACK the Top Hanger when you run it perpendicular to the joists. 3) Somehow when screwing in the wall brackets, one area became lower than the TOP HANGER. so continually check for level. If I use this product again, I would cut all the crosstees so I can check for level as I put up the wall bracket. Remember the CROSS TEES hang down from the TOP HANGER and then on the wall brack they SIT on the BOTTOM of the wall bracket. The PVC tiles you might use have no weight to them, so there is nothing to help pull downward on the cross tees. 4) Cut everything SLOWLY and use just a razor knife / carpet knife. Not the tin snips. I wasn't impressed with how the ends turned out. I also used a bench scroll saw on slow and that worked but the razor knife was cleaner. 5) When putting up the last TOP HANGER, I put the cross tees in before screwing in the Top Hanger. This ensures that they are near perfectly the width of a full tile. 6) There is NO wiggle room when the final runner (Step 5 in the instructions) is snapped in. at one cross tee (a full tee) it was off by about a sixteenth of an inch and it showed. This was where I was putting in the crosstee to make sure the TOP HANGER was perfectly aligned with the previous TOP HANGER. Not sure why it did that. 7) Measure exactly. There is no room for slop.

Easy install, great quality

1. I received the package in advance according to planned date 2. Package content is A1 I will update if something's up that I didn't see yet, but so far, everything's great !

Slightly picky to get the last row of tiles in, but, this product worked absolutely perfectly for my extremely low roof basement! Once it's installed it looks awesome and the tiles are still relatively easy to remove if needed. We ended up doing the entire basement with these!

Overall I'm pretty happy with the system. The concept is well tought, but could use some improvement. Runners are way too hard to snap, it's almost impossible to install between joist without supporting the top hanger. Also, like mentionned by other, this is kind of flemsy, so installing this alone was quite a challenge. My advice : take your time to make a perfect first line, then align a laser perpendicular with one define notch (in my case the center of the room). I found that marking a chalk line at 22-1/2'' from the previous line was the way to go. Those things are precise so if you're off 1/16'' it will just follow you the rest of the room. With the chalk line, you can make sure you are as straight as possible and if you have a little kink in the line, just cut the cross tee a little (tiles are quite loose, don't worry). Last thing, some cross tees are not flush to the runners, some are pretty nice, some are not, eventhough I made sure they were perfectly installed each time. I believe it's made from a possible twist to the hanger, I don't know. Thanks for selling this on Amazon, the package came perfectly and I'm glad my girlfriend likes the result ;) That's what's important right ?

This product works best when your ceiling is fairly level. Mine wasn't and took a while to create level grids. The instructions say to start from the center of the room, but that would've made it difficult to level the ceiling. The only criticism I could make is that the black runners could've been designed better. They're notched for t-bar every 2 feet, and the notch starts at 1-foot in (from the end). I ended up cutting off to the first notch to fit my tiles. The grid and black runners are best spaced according to your tile's width, not the t bar length. Once it's snapped in, that's pretty much it. Solid. Took a while to get my uneven ceiling levelled out, but it looks as good as any other drop ceiling I've seen, and it's solid. If you want squared and levelled, it's going to take a while longer to get it right. They should have started the t-bar notches on the very ends of the black runners. Start with 2 foot notches, because every ceiling tile is a multiple of 2. I used 2 x 4 tiles, which would've put the first t-bar notch at 3 feet in had I not cut it. Odd way to do it, but I made it work. Good product overall. Having a complete kit is worth every penny. That makes this ideal.

This is the only product I could find to install a 1" thick drop ceiling in a low ceiling basement